elwyn5150 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I was looking at my Mon Cal boots made in 2011. They are really great but need changes to reach Lancer spec. I have a few questions. Does the Velcro at the back need to be 25 mm exactly? Mine seem to be 20 mm. Cutting the sole: so I just need to cut the sole such that there are two stacked rectangles where the groves are? I noticed that there is a thin layer of the sole that is browny-green. I think it's about 8 mm high below where the vinyl starts. Does this need to be painted? If so, what should I paint the sole with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4505Marcel Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Yes the sole will need to be painted to be a single tan colour. The cuts in the sole are not strict as long as you have slots in there, it doesnt need to be stacked either, but a upto you if you want to do that. The siera boots came in plain slot and stacked as seen in the mom exhibet pictures in the gallery. But we know there are mistakes in that reference so thats not 100%. I would say go with the 25mm rear closure velcro, its not a big job to un pick and redo, you could get away with just doing the veclro on the outer skin of the boots so the stitch lines look correctly spaced on the out side, no need to do both sides as the inner skin is not seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwyn5150 Posted December 3, 2012 Author Share Posted December 3, 2012 What do most people use to repaint the soles? A speciality paint from a shoe shop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southscout Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I think I saw somewhere here that someone used a Krylon or Rustoleum paint. See if you can't find it and then PM the guy/gal to check how it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4505Marcel Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Good advice, I have no experience on painting soles sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwyn5150 Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 Sounds like a good choice. I am repainting my bucket with Krylon this afternoon. Already done the primer level. The Krylon fusion can says there's no need for priming so when I get the right coloured Krylon for the boots, I won't need to prime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwyn5150 Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 Does anyone have any tips on how to make the cut out bits look more even? I'm just using a sharp box cutter which is great for removing bulk, Do you use putty to make things look evened out? Is it worth bothering since the general public won't be crouching down to look at it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin-X Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 I used a sharpie to draw the squares, then an exacto blade to make the cuts. The best blade is the chisel version. Get a few of them, you'll need 'em! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwyn5150 Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 There's chisel versions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin-X Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Yeah, Exacto makes all sorts of different blades. The chisel blade works well because the width of the blade is just about perfect for the squares. When it's fresh, the blade will sink right into the boot rubber and you can easily cut out the chunk. BUT, it takes some time so get comfortable! I also used a craft paint made for rubber in a "wheat" color for the soles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwyn5150 Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 One of these? http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/221147798476?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 So they get blunt a bit and that's why I should get more than one? I've already started on the one of my boots. The bottom slots I've done look a lot better because one side is open already. The top slots I've done look worse - like the removed bit is a peakless pyramid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin-X Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Ya, very similar. This is what I have... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwattsup Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 I also used a craft paint made for rubber in a "wheat" color for the soles. Do you remember what brand you used Jim? I might need something like this once I make my boots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwyn5150 Posted December 16, 2012 Author Share Posted December 16, 2012 That corner cutter looks really interesting. So it cuts four sides but how does it cut underneath? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin-X Posted December 16, 2012 Share Posted December 16, 2012 The paint I use is made by "Folk Art" and the color is "Teddy Bear Tan". It's a nice wheat-like color. For the cuts, I use the chisel blade and sink it in on the four sides of the square, and then on the last side, I dig it under and out. I do not use that corner tool. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimei Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 i agree...no need to use the corner thingy...and the chisel made my cutting a realtive piece of cake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwattsup Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 The paint I use is made by "Folk Art" and the color is "Teddy Bear Tan". It's a nice wheat-like color. Hope this helps. A belated thanks Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwyn5150 Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 I bought a set of X-acto knives in a little box set and restarted work on the soles. Here's a picture of the most recent section I did with X-acto. I plan on doing more slots above in the front end section when I get a new #17 blade - I accidentally broke the last one. This is a closeup of the heel on the other side. I think it's not pretty but am assuming that it won't look so bad once the paint goes on and don't think many people will see unless they get down on all fours. I think when the cutting is finished, I'll remove the vinyl before spray painting. The vinyl needs reglueing anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin-X Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Did you have fun...?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwyn5150 Posted January 4, 2013 Author Share Posted January 4, 2013 Did you have fun...?! How could I not have fun? I'm playing with knives that come in a cute little box. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elwyn5150 Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share Posted February 10, 2013 I've updated my boots. I used Krylon Camoflage to repaint the soles one colour. I really like the way they look and feel with the slots cut in. However, they still look better from a foot away because my X-acto skills haven't been perfected. (Side note: I think the reason the vinyl above the dogbone looks like it is sticking out is because the holster is weighing things down a little.) At extremely close range, it's still possible to see where the old stitching was: Definitely not so much a little further back: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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