spookymufu Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Okay, been doing a little bit by little bit putting my helmet together so I thought I'd make my own thread. first thing I did was to put the chin strap in. I went to Joanns Fabrics and got some 1" black elastic band and some self adhesive industrial hold velcro. I bought 2" wide velcro and cut it in 1" strips and applied the velcro inside the helmet between the strap slots and then applied the other part of the velcro to the strap and then just velcroed the strap to the helmet After getting the chin cup/strap on I put on the trap decals... I'm happy with the traps, not horrible. Next I applied the barcode..........sigh I'm not too happy with them, I got them up too high....not sure theres anything I can do about it now though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cucblack Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Good job!!! The barcode too high. Maybe you can remove carefully and apply again. Are independent bars decals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 I'm not entirely sure that the barcode is too high. Check out the original. http://starwarshelmets.com/star_wars_helmets_review_original_jedi_biker_scout_trooper_helmet.htm Yes, I think the barcode decals may well be a little too long, and the indents on the back of the MLC lid a fraction too low, giving the height mis-match, but I think the bottoms of his barcode decals are in the right place. If he puts them much lower, they're going to be going 'under' the bulge, and that, apart from being in the wrong place, would be a nightmare to get right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookymufu Posted March 20, 2014 Author Share Posted March 20, 2014 Good job!!! The barcode too high. Maybe you can remove carefully and apply again. Are independent bars decals? i dont think so, its trooperbay's decals, i suppose they might be removed one at a time (if you can remove them with out damaging the helmet) but i doubt they could be reapplied. of course some one else who's worked with this type of rub-on decal would know better. I'm not entirely sure that the barcode is too high. Check out the original. http://starwarshelme...oper_helmet.htm Yes, I think the barcode decals may well be a little too long, and the indents on the back of the MLC lid a fraction too low, giving the height mis-match, but I think the bottoms of his barcode decals are in the right place. If he puts them much lower, they're going to be going 'under' the bulge, and that, apart from being in the wrong place, would be a nightmare to get right. from what I've read and seen, the barcode should start at the same level as the vents, is that wrong? I'm really only unhappy with the last 7 bars, that seems to be where it went wonky.... does anyone know if they can be removed and maybe get another set of JUST the barcode from trooperbay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cucblack Posted March 20, 2014 Share Posted March 20, 2014 Are too high respect the indents. They should be at the same level or closest. And I'm agree with chef respect the barcode decals are in the right place. The last 9 bars decals looks like are not in a straigh line, are in a curve ascendant. Next time apply first from the indents side, and close to the line, but not in the same line, because are a little low. Anyway helmet looks good and you can fix this detail in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Speak to Mike, Scott. He's a top fellow, and should be able to sort you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookymufu Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 Contacted Mike and he will ship me just the barcode for $8, now I gotta figure out how to get this one off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookymufu Posted March 22, 2014 Author Share Posted March 22, 2014 Okay good news! the decal comes off pretty easily with a razor knife, just put the blade under the bar and lift then just peel it off. Now just need to reorder a new decal and reapply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundwave Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 EDIT : Ignore me. I figured it out. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookymufu Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share Posted March 28, 2014 argh.....okay, I was working on forming the visor and the hair dryer just isnt heating up the Trooperbay visor enough to make it pliable, so, do I NEED a heat gun for this because I dont really know where to go from here. The visor was very hot but never reached pliable, wouldnt hold the curve at all and went right back to flat when I released pressure after cooling...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cucblack Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Maybe the surface when you are applying the silicone is dirty, clean it. Also when you apply the hot glue you need wait at least 2-3 minutes pressuring the lenses. And apply a second coat to assure the lenses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cucblack Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Could you try the thermoformed with a electric oven. But carefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 Like Christian says... If it's anything like the welding shields that I use, you need to hold them in place whilst you blob some hot glue in the nose section. Press it into shape in the helmet and glue in the nose section. Hold it there until the glue has completely dried. You will convulse in agony as your finger/thumb get severe cramps whilst the glue dries, but that's the price you pay. When that first bit is dry and it's holding it's shape, whack some more glue around the rest of it to complete the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookymufu Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 I cleaned the DVH snout piece with detergent to remove any residue that was on it, let it air dry for a few days and today I go out side ready to paint it, all happy and everything, I hit it with a coat of paint and these little black dots are every-freekin-where on this thing, it's pin-hole city! WTH?? this helmet when/if finished is either going to be very nice and something that I can be proud of, or a $450 POS that mocks me every day I look at it....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookymufu Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 Sigh.......... And so after very carefully masking my snout, doing it twice, double checking it, applying a base white coat to seal the edges and then lightly spraying 2 coats of satan black, I got this................mess........ I dont even know how to fix this.......maybe I can get a fine tipped brush and try to clean up the edges with some white.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookymufu Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 k, after a few min tweaking it, I got this, this isnt too bad, not perfect but doesnt make me sick... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookymufu Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 Okay, I turned the oven on 300 degrees and put two small bowls in there and bridged the bowels with the lens material from TrooperBay. I kept an eye on it, checked it every few seconds and when it started to droop between the two bowels I took it out (with an oven mitt) and laid it into the face of the helmet then applied pressure holding it down, then when it cooled, I hot glued it into place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookymufu Posted March 30, 2014 Author Share Posted March 30, 2014 k, lens in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookymufu Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 Okay, decals on, I'm 90% there, need to add the 3M bolt covers, snout piece installed, and the rear barcode decal installed (again) once it gets here. Heres a pic of it in it's home..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaEngine Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Looking really nice. Well done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin-X Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Great work and you have learned some valuable lessons that will help later on. For the snout, I use the Darth Voorhee's snout for all my scout lids. It is one of the best. Most resin based casts will require a little cleaning. I have found that dish soap works really good to remove the excess resin/residue. I think that's what is causing your pinhole issue. Once that is done, I then hit it with Krylon flat grey primer and then brush the satin black over the aerator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookymufu Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 yes, I used dish detergent to clean it up, just seems theres a bunch of pin holes in it (its a DVH) but, I found if I cake on the paint it fills most of them up pretty well with out losing much detail.....I would have prepped it better if I had been able to see the holes but being a black cast I never saw them..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin-X Posted March 31, 2014 Share Posted March 31, 2014 Gotcha. Maybe the cast you got had air bubbles. Lou does a pretty good job on them. I've never had this problem. Did you prime it first too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookymufu Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 all I used was Krylon primer for my "grey" as thats what everyone else seemed to use....thats when I saw the holes. I think it will be okay tho, seems the heavy paint filled in most of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookymufu Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 k, got the snout piece painted and on......as good as it's going to get I'm afraid..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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